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]]> By: ophirk http://ophir.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/python-for-executives/#comment-113 ophirk Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:26:40 +0000 http://ophir.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-113 Since I wrote this blog we had few serious performance problems in our python related code. I was a bit worried that my comments might have been too optimistic. The investigation has shown that in one places we were writing and pickling a single object to the log 777 times. That's probably not a god practice in any language. Since I wrote this blog we had few serious performance problems in our python related code.
I was a bit worried that my comments might have been too optimistic.
The investigation has shown that in one places we were writing and pickling a single object to the log 777 times.
That’s probably not a god practice in any language.

]]> By: ophirk http://ophir.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/python-for-executives/#comment-108 ophirk Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:14:59 +0000 http://ophir.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-108 It was hardly maintained at the time, and fell significantly behind CPython versions. I understand it has changed since. Our main two main problems were in Java itself and not just Python integration. 1. Eclipse crashed every hour. 2. JSF was the best practice to write web pages , but was really strange and long way to write simple code. 3. Connecting CPython to Java required an annoying RPC mechanism. Many people write great products in Java and Eclipse, but it seems there is a big learning curve which didn't suit us. It was hardly maintained at the time, and fell significantly behind CPython versions. I understand it has changed since.
Our main two main problems were in Java itself and not just Python integration.
1. Eclipse crashed every hour.
2. JSF was the best practice to write web pages , but was really strange and long way to write simple code.
3. Connecting CPython to Java required an annoying RPC mechanism.

Many people write great products in Java and Eclipse, but it seems there is a big learning curve which didn’t suit us.

]]> By: Vishwajeet Singh http://ophir.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/python-for-executives/#comment-107 Vishwajeet Singh Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:29:20 +0000 http://ophir.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-107 You could have done this using Jython if I am not wrong :) why you eliminated Java without considering Jython ?? You could have done this using Jython if I am not wrong :)
why you eliminated Java without considering Jython ??

]]> By: ophirk http://ophir.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/python-for-executives/#comment-103 ophirk Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:55:53 +0000 http://ophir.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-103 Thanks Ted. Maybe i was not clear enough . Python in our company does at least half, if not more of the heavy lifting. It is not limited to a small corner, quite the opposite. It is used to manage virtualization, networking and storage in a very large scale real time system and lies at the core of the service.From a software development perspective it is used for multi-threading, Object Relational Mapping, RPC , algorithms, API management, logging, network security and testing. Regrading your second point. I agree that a year of experience is not equal to ten years, but I I have the same faith in Python now as I had in C++ after one year following nine years working in C. Since our usage is in a live , complex system with real customers I'm quite confident we mitigated most of the risk. Thanks Ted.

Maybe i was not clear enough . Python in our company does at least half, if not more of the heavy lifting. It is not limited to a small corner, quite the opposite.
It is used to manage virtualization, networking and storage in a very large scale real time system and lies at the core of the service.From a software development perspective it is used for multi-threading, Object Relational Mapping, RPC , algorithms, API management, logging, network security and testing.

Regrading your second point. I agree that a year of experience is not equal to ten years, but I I have the same faith in Python now as I had in C++ after one year following nine years working in C.
Since our usage is in a live , complex system with real customers I’m quite confident we mitigated most of the risk.

]]> By: Ted http://ophir.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/python-for-executives/#comment-102 Ted Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:48:06 +0000 http://ophir.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-102 I like Python but I think you overlook something in your "Risk" point: - The use of Python in your software appears to be limited to certain tasks - C# and the rest are doing the heavy lifting - You haven't used Python as long as you had with Java/C/C++ If you use Python as heavy as the rest, won't you hit its limitation as well eventually? I like Python but I think you overlook something in your “Risk” point:

- The use of Python in your software appears to be limited to certain tasks
- C# and the rest are doing the heavy lifting
- You haven’t used Python as long as you had with Java/C/C++

If you use Python as heavy as the rest, won’t you hit its limitation as well eventually?

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